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People involved in criminal justice know that reform of the system is long overdue. But it may come as a surprise to those outside, to hear that leading justice figures and others agree that the time has come to reserve prison for serious and violent offenders.
As numbers in custody exceed 88,000 for the first time ever, the Prison Reform Trust releases Talking Justice: Talking Sense.
This new six minute film presents the case for prison as a place of last resort and looks to community payback and restorative justice as better ways to cut crime.
In a series of film clips those in charge of the system, regulators, offenders, victims and well known faces talk sense about justice.
Click on any picture to hear two minutes of sense from each one.